Both have good points but spyders are blow back design old technology they are known for breakdowns high rate of parts wear & to many moving parts. If you remove your bolt you will most likely see wear on the top this is due to the design when the bolt moves forward it actually lifts & scrapes onto the breech. this is one of the common problems. Also they tend not to use Quality parts. If you are just playing backyard paintball it will be ok. but if you are playing a lot I would recommend a different marker good markers I would look at Tippmann for woodsball or Smart Parts & Proto for speedball (you can also use these two for woodsball)
Spyder markers don’t suck they are just an entry level gun. You have to invest more in them to make it as competitive as some guns you pay more for right out of the box that are already tournament ready. Spyders are great for Rec ball and scenario games, practice your snap shooting,know your ultimate range, and always minimize your body exposure and you will be playing in the 90 percentile. Trust me when I say most players live and die by volume of paint thrown and never learn the basics. I have seen them come and go in the 30 years I have been playing.
To start off check out Techpb.com and their channel on youtube (paintballtechpb) and just subscribe to their channel and watch as many videos as possible it will answers your questions and more.
The problem with kingman products is that they don’t stay with the norm of paintball products. They have weird regulators with female and male wierd versions. They also make the guns hard to dissemble, but i am going to assume you are just getting into the sport and a 09 spyder was probably under $200 and for a first gun it is just fine but after a season of play a different gun could be bettter. I would not upgrade your gun your upgrades should go as follows.
1- Mask (Proto, V-Force, or Dye are very nice)
2- Hopper (Invert Too, Empire Prophecy, Dye Rotor, or a Ponokio)
3- High pressure air tank (Ninja, Guerilla air, or Crossfire)
4- Gun (200-300 price range Smart Parts Vibe or SP1 with the blackheart board, Azodin Blitz, Dangerous Power G3, or Proto SLG) (300-600 price range Planet Eclipse Etek 3, Bob Long Protege) (600 and up honestly if you are buying a gun this expensive you will know enough about the sport to get a gun that fits you)
Spyders are entry level guns. They were never designed to be top of the line. But it’s important to emphasize who their target audience is – NEW PLAYERS. New players typically don’t know much about maintaining their equipment. This isn’t an insult to new players, they just don’t know. I mean, if no one tells you, how would you know that a paintball gun needs to be relubed regularly or completely disassembled & cleaned occasionally to maintain optimum performance?
And that’s where all these rumors start. Misconceptions about a product stemmed from user error. All i gotta add to that is this: read the manual, people.
As for the quality of the parts used – they’re good enough. Spyder parts just don’t break. The company wouldn’t exist for years if their stuff broke constantly. I’ve owned my fair share of spyders and all worked well, never breaking down. They’re not hard to disassemble, either, and i’ve disassembled a lot, even more than the average player needs to (stuff like valve removals, trigger assembly removals, etc).
Even maintenance is simple & often doesn’t even require disassembly. For instance, a little trick for relubing the gun is remove the hopper & barrel (and any paintballs that might be in the breach), place a few drops of paintball gun oil in the asa, put on your tank then dry fire into a towel. This circulates oil throughout the marker. You can’t do that with any mid or high end guns, only spyders, tippmanns & other similar guns.
I will say that one annoying factor in the past is their proprietary parts, stuff like offset asa screw holes (majority of aftermarket asa’s, drop forwards, rails, etc, use inline holes), different threading types for their air line fittings, their own barrel threads (as opposed to the new universal standard – autococker barrel threading), etc. But all companies are free to do that, and they do. Dye, for instance: stellar company, awesome guns that i love, but their Matrix line (DM8, DM9, etc) now has proprietary regulators – only Dye makes the reg that fits them (it’s skinnier on top than standard regs).
And yes, your spyder is perfectly fine. If you end up playing for a long time, you’ll probably move up to a better gun but for now it’ll do the job.
They are made in china and are really easy to break, just like every thing made in china. You have a ok setup but because its not a quality marker I wouldnt reccomend it to anyone. Spyders sell for about $50 and cost around $10 to make. They are really crapy markers.
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Both have good points but spyders are blow back design old technology they are known for breakdowns high rate of parts wear & to many moving parts. If you remove your bolt you will most likely see wear on the top this is due to the design when the bolt moves forward it actually lifts & scrapes onto the breech. this is one of the common problems. Also they tend not to use Quality parts. If you are just playing backyard paintball it will be ok. but if you are playing a lot I would recommend a different marker good markers I would look at Tippmann for woodsball or Smart Parts & Proto for speedball (you can also use these two for woodsball)
Spyder markers don’t suck they are just an entry level gun. You have to invest more in them to make it as competitive as some guns you pay more for right out of the box that are already tournament ready. Spyders are great for Rec ball and scenario games, practice your snap shooting,know your ultimate range, and always minimize your body exposure and you will be playing in the 90 percentile. Trust me when I say most players live and die by volume of paint thrown and never learn the basics. I have seen them come and go in the 30 years I have been playing.
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To start off check out Techpb.com and their channel on youtube (paintballtechpb) and just subscribe to their channel and watch as many videos as possible it will answers your questions and more.
The problem with kingman products is that they don’t stay with the norm of paintball products. They have weird regulators with female and male wierd versions. They also make the guns hard to dissemble, but i am going to assume you are just getting into the sport and a 09 spyder was probably under $200 and for a first gun it is just fine but after a season of play a different gun could be bettter. I would not upgrade your gun your upgrades should go as follows.
1- Mask (Proto, V-Force, or Dye are very nice)
2- Hopper (Invert Too, Empire Prophecy, Dye Rotor, or a Ponokio)
3- High pressure air tank (Ninja, Guerilla air, or Crossfire)
4- Gun (200-300 price range Smart Parts Vibe or SP1 with the blackheart board, Azodin Blitz, Dangerous Power G3, or Proto SLG) (300-600 price range Planet Eclipse Etek 3, Bob Long Protege) (600 and up honestly if you are buying a gun this expensive you will know enough about the sport to get a gun that fits you)
Spyders are entry level guns. They were never designed to be top of the line. But it’s important to emphasize who their target audience is – NEW PLAYERS. New players typically don’t know much about maintaining their equipment. This isn’t an insult to new players, they just don’t know. I mean, if no one tells you, how would you know that a paintball gun needs to be relubed regularly or completely disassembled & cleaned occasionally to maintain optimum performance?
And that’s where all these rumors start. Misconceptions about a product stemmed from user error. All i gotta add to that is this: read the manual, people.
As for the quality of the parts used – they’re good enough. Spyder parts just don’t break. The company wouldn’t exist for years if their stuff broke constantly. I’ve owned my fair share of spyders and all worked well, never breaking down. They’re not hard to disassemble, either, and i’ve disassembled a lot, even more than the average player needs to (stuff like valve removals, trigger assembly removals, etc).
Even maintenance is simple & often doesn’t even require disassembly. For instance, a little trick for relubing the gun is remove the hopper & barrel (and any paintballs that might be in the breach), place a few drops of paintball gun oil in the asa, put on your tank then dry fire into a towel. This circulates oil throughout the marker. You can’t do that with any mid or high end guns, only spyders, tippmanns & other similar guns.
I will say that one annoying factor in the past is their proprietary parts, stuff like offset asa screw holes (majority of aftermarket asa’s, drop forwards, rails, etc, use inline holes), different threading types for their air line fittings, their own barrel threads (as opposed to the new universal standard – autococker barrel threading), etc. But all companies are free to do that, and they do. Dye, for instance: stellar company, awesome guns that i love, but their Matrix line (DM8, DM9, etc) now has proprietary regulators – only Dye makes the reg that fits them (it’s skinnier on top than standard regs).
And yes, your spyder is perfectly fine. If you end up playing for a long time, you’ll probably move up to a better gun but for now it’ll do the job.
They are made in china and are really easy to break, just like every thing made in china. You have a ok setup but because its not a quality marker I wouldnt reccomend it to anyone. Spyders sell for about $50 and cost around $10 to make. They are really crapy markers.
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