Ep 4 What paintball marker should I buy, a guide for new players

by lindaranch1973 on April 1, 2010

Mostly meant for the VERY new players out there, some concepts on what kind of a paintball marker you should look for when you’re interested in buying one. My philosophy is that there’s no “perfect gun” out there, just what is perfect for you. And sorry this is late folks. Have had some issues with some pain lately. In the first vid when I ran? I hobbled on a bad foot, blew out my knee. Hobbled on a bad knee, wrenched my back out. So no “playing” vids for a little while yet while my body heals itself again. We’ll get back on the field as soon as we can.

{ 25 comments }

satanthing February 9, 2010 at 6:52 pm

@Cavdragoneb12
no sp guns are just fine, i have had my vibe for a while and it runs like a tank, its also IMPOSSIBLE to chop a paintball in it so +1 for Vibe

Dowsewashere February 9, 2010 at 7:28 pm

@Cavdragoneb12
well Smarts parts are very good on repairs. plus have you ever owned one? its not plastic and you should have some proof to back up your opinions

hadesdude18 February 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm

great vid. i got a tippman 98 custom for my first gun and it has been great. i havent really found a need to buy a new gun, but i do upgrade it every once in a while.

Cavdragoneb12 February 9, 2010 at 8:12 pm

I’ve owned a few SP guns, and I tech them constantly.
People come in my shop with blown ‘noids, bad boards, cracked body panels, and other dumb problems that can be avoided with a little quality control.
My own Ion was put together by a moron, many items were cross-threaded from the factory.
SP has NEVER warrentied a gun I’ve needed them to.

Not plastic? The Vibe’s frame, trigger, body, ‘noid housing, and feedneck are composite! Stronger than aluminum? Hardly.

Cavdragoneb12 February 9, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Composite stronger than aluminum, hardly…

I don’t care if the impact ristsance is greater, if the flexibility isn’t there it will crack. Aluminum dents, and that is much more acceptable.
Plus, annodized aluminum is actualy stronger than steel…

You wouldn’t blow the braided line, they are rated to, IIRC, at least 6000psi.

Noids often blow before the lines do, I’ve seen it happen too many times…

Cavdragoneb12 February 9, 2010 at 8:18 pm

Many SP guns are fine, but the amount of lemons that SP makes is astronomical.

My Automag doesn’t chop, it has high toleances, it was put together correctly, it is faster, it is more reliable, it is easier to tech, and you can roll it over with a truck.
+10

JaIrIt0 February 9, 2010 at 11:14 pm

ygood work tiger!!

Magmoormaster February 10, 2010 at 11:11 pm

I like the 1.5 frame, actually. I mean, come on, do you really expect to be walking a cocker? It is really smooth though.

As much as love my Trilogy, I would never recommend one to a new player.

Magmoormaster February 10, 2010 at 11:14 pm

You guys all fail.

Cav is right. His Ion was totally jacked up and they wouldn’t fix it. The only good thing that became of owning that was the fact that he traded it for his Mag.

kirkland19 February 11, 2010 at 10:07 am

I’m going to have to disagree with the gun choices. Why not choose a lighter gun as a back player? This will allow you to maneuver easier and also require less endurance to hold all match/day. Think you won’t have to move up when your front players go down?

Also, why choose a crappy mechanical blowback when you can get a low end EP for the same cost. The target players are ~6 month players? They’ve already been playing with mechanical blowbacks for this long. Heck, buy a used high end for $200

WebDogPaintball February 11, 2010 at 5:48 pm

IMHO, most casual players will never need an electro gun. It’s a waste of money both in the initial purchase, and int he week-to-week of playing. MOST fields are FPO, and at $90 a case, why spend that much?

That and blowback semis are not “crappy”, as most people seem to believe. I’ve used my Tippmann for years and gone all out against all comers, and never felt outgunned.

kirkland19 February 11, 2010 at 6:06 pm

So, no electronic markers and no pumps… Why not just stick with the rental equipment? Because you want to purchase a $100 Wal-Mart special and call it “my own”? If they’ve been playing for ~6 months and want to step UP then that’s what they should do: upgrade.

Purchasing a marker is a LOT more complicated than saying “okay, I play fast, so I need something small”. Ergonomics, maintenance, performance, efficiency, operation, price… all these things come into play.

BongHitsForJesus101 February 11, 2010 at 8:32 pm

@Cavdragoneb12

Agreed, SP is likely to not be around much longer. So don’t expect much out of your warranties. Our sport is on the downswing. Hopefully there will be a way to bring it back to its former numbers.

BongHitsForJesus101 February 11, 2010 at 8:37 pm

Not to mention all of the sweet-spotting that goes into a Cocker. Don’t get me wrong, I like them but not something a new player would get as quickly.

Cavdragoneb12 February 12, 2010 at 12:03 am

I’ve been playing for several years, and I don’t own an electro. I’ve used them, but I don’t care for them. Recommending them for a new player isn’t the best thing in the world. Having a good semi will tell a person “I need to shoot faster/I need to shoot slower/this is a good spot for me”.

You don’t want to use a rental, because rentals usually are neglected, old, abused, innacurate, and, well, crappy. Plus use a rental 10 times and you could have afforded a decent semi of your own…

Cavdragoneb12 February 12, 2010 at 12:08 am

True, and that’s a transaction I’d never reverse.
In my experience, SP guns are either bad, or decent… nothing actually “good” or “exceptional” comes from them except some barrels and Max-Flos.

Plus for the cost many companies make good guns that are comparable. For almost $50 more than an Ion you can get a DP G3, and it smokes anything SP ever made.
Spyder even makes some decent guns for $150…

You have a lot of options as a beginner, SP isn’t in my list.

Cavdragoneb12 February 12, 2010 at 12:11 am

Pretty sure the Trilogies come pre-spotted, but that still doesn’t lessen the tech to it. I’d say the Trilogy is a good beginner cocker, not a good beginner marker.

@Mag, a double trigger doesn’t mean you’ll be walking it, but 2 fingers on a trigger to pull it can be comfortable for a lot of players. The 1.5 doesn’t allow you to use 2 fingers, and for one finger you either need to use your middle or slide your hand down the grip a bit and use your index. The former is better than the latter.

WebDogPaintball February 12, 2010 at 8:31 am

Kirk :

There’s something to be said for having your own gear. $100 invested in a gun translates to saved money in field fees, PLUS you know your gear is well maintained and cared for. Rental guns get beaten to snot, honestly.

And yeah, it’s more complex than I presented, but I wanted to keep the vid under 15 minutes and not overly confuse people. :)

kirkland19 February 12, 2010 at 9:13 am

I’m all for people owning their own equipment. I guess my main problem is steering “established” players toward the Wally World gear. Especially when the back players should spend $200-250 for their setup (new A-5 plus VERY cheap tank, mask, pack) vs telling the front players that a $90 player’s pack will suit them fine. Also, if something were to happen to that $90 marker, they’d have to have it tech’d. At $25/hr, it would be more beneficial to buy a new marker. Nullifying the of “my own gear”.

Magmoormaster February 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I have only one. Tippmann 98.

I mean, what can’t you do with them? Milsim, pump, e-bolts… One of the most versatile guns ever made. Only gun that matches is(IMO) are cockers, but they take a bit more know-how.

Magmoormaster February 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm

This is true. I don’t see why you would use 2 fingers to shoot a trigger though… You can shoot faster with just one. And you can use the Zen form of shooting. ;)

Cavdragoneb12 February 13, 2010 at 12:17 am

Good point!

MrMagiskMann February 28, 2010 at 10:16 pm

Se på mine video. Du vil sikkert bli sjokkert

Blair63B March 6, 2010 at 3:01 pm

@Magmoormaster sryy im kind of new to this, by is that a company or type of gun you are talking about?

WebDogPaintball March 6, 2010 at 3:53 pm

Tippmann 98 is a type of gun from the company “Tippmann”, it’s one of theirs.

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